Tuesday, June 12, 2007

good article on “new atheists”

here is a good article on the “new atheists”, the people who wrote all the bestselling atheist books lately. the author of the article sympathizes with the “new atheists” who wrote those books, but has a different atheist point of view. i think the real reason there is a problem is, just like nobody has any idea who or what god is defined as, people have the same lack of understanding of what atheism is defined as. an atheist is someone who lacks belief in any supernatural deity and/or deities, and atheism is lack of belief in any supernatural deity and/or deities. of course those are my words and not from a dictionary, but it is just a restatement of what the dictionaries say about atheists. so technically, anyone who is unsure about god’s existence does not really believe, and their lack of belief makes them an atheist. an agnostic is someone who claims that it is impossible for anyone to know whether or not god or any other supernatural deities exist. so an agnostic is a subtype of atheist. there are 2 primary types of atheist: strong atheists and weak atheists. strong atheists claim that they know for sure that there is no god or any other supernatural deity. weak atheists do not make any such claims of knowing about god’s nonexistence. of course, the jewish/christian/muslim god needs to be put on an equal footing with all other deities from other religions, like vishnu and shiva and zeus and thor and the egyptian sun god. there is no reason to give one god special treatment compared to all the others. that would be unfair. anyway, an agnostic is a subtype of a weak atheist. but anyway there are 3 main types of atheist: strong atheists, weak atheists who are not agnostics, and agnostics. weak atheists who are not agnostics are probably the largest category of them all, in numbers. those are people who neither claim to know whether god exists nor claim that they know it is impossible whether to know whether god exists. in other words, they make no claims at all. this is the default position, the position of not knowing anything. anyone who is unsure and does not know whether god exists but thinks there ought to be some sort of way to tell would be in this, the largest of the 3 categories. in fact, this category includes a large percentage of people who claim to follow religions, and who might be followers if you look at their external actions instead of their internal thoughts. but it is someone’s internal thoughts and beliefs that make them either an atheist or a theist. and what are the kinds of theist? the 2 main types of theists are monotheists and polytheists. monotheists believe in 1 god, and are usually jewish, christian, or muslim, but there are some from other traditions such as zoroastrianism, which is the world’s oldest monotheistic religion. polytheists believe in many gods, and the most popular form of polytheism is hinduism. there is also greco-roman paganism and norse paganism, and the various other pagan religions of the world, along with japanese shintoism and chinese taoism. in a recent post i made a mistake about which of aristotle’s axioms of logic is rejected by taoists and those who follow the philosophy of dadaism. it is not just the axiom that every statement is either true or false. it is also important to reject the axiom that a statement cannot be true and false at the same time! taoists like to believe and disbelieve something at the same time, and consider how a statement is both true and false at the same time. dadaists just simply reject logic altogether, and embrace being illogical, so in essence this means, most importantly, rejecting that a statement cannot be true and false at the same time. a subgenius, on the other hand, likes to think that all statements are true and none of them are false, and just believe everything. so technically this would make subgeniuses polytheists, since they believe in everything, especially things that are inherently self-contradictory. the whole point of believing in everything is to prove that you are dumb enough to believe anything. and that is why your iq is below genius level, making you literally a sub-genius. anyone dumb enough to believe anything is obviously not a genius, you see, so they must be a subgenius instead. but not all people with sub-genius-level iqs are subgenii. there are other requirements, all of which contradict each other, and you have to fulfill all of these contradictory requirements to be a true subgenius, which means subgenii do not exist, unless you believe that multiple things that contradict each other can all be true at the same time, in which case there is not a problem. a strong atheist, however, usually stakes out that position based on logic and reason, and typically would believe in all of aristotle’s axioms of logic, and use them as the basis for proving the nonexistence of god, a thoroughly meaningless exercise. i mean, what in god’s name is the point of proving that god does not exist, if god is an inherently self-contradictory “concept”? such a god does not even qualify as a concept because all the contradictions make god impossible for anyone with a rational, logical mind to understand. you must either reject god or reject logic, or else pretend everything somehow neatly fits together and god really does exist. but which god is even being discussed? there are so many gods out there, maybe one of them actually does exist. i mean, statistically, what are the chances that, out of all the gods people have ever made up, not a single one actually exists, if you assume the chances for each god existing are 50%, which is logical if you are completely ignorant? the chances of atheism being correct, or of monotheism being correct, are ridiculously tiny, if you go by the statistics. there are probably hundreds if not thousands of gods, all of which exist, if you think each god has a 50% probability of existence. but what if these gods only have some weird quantum form of quasi-existence, just like schroedinger’s cat can have a weird quantum state of being alive and dead at the same time? i think quantum physics has shown that something can be true and false at the same time, which proves that illogic is correct, and logical people such as strong atheists need to stop using their brains because they are too smart for their own good. embrace stupidity! you can believe things that are obviously false! you can believe anything if you put your mind to it! all you need is a little faith, and then you can believe the craziest-sounding conspiracy theories people have ever concocted, all at once, even if 10 of them involve the kennedy assassination and all 10 blame different people and have totally contradictory storylines! who cares? everything is true! of course that undermines the whole meaning of truth, but that is the point. truth is fiction. this is 1984, and my name is l. ron hubbard. and now that everything is true, nothing makes any sense! everything is just nonsense! you cannot think any smarter than your brain is, but you sure can think stupider than your brain is! i have tried it and it works! i have my brain running now at 90% below capacity, and i am only thinking with 10% of my brain! which 10%? the stupidest! and you see the results... brilliant! i am guided by animal instinct, manipulating objects known as “words” to build structures known as “sentences”. they are all built the same way a stupid monkey would build things out of his own poop before he throws it at people who walk by at the zoo. but the new atheists? they are far too logical to understand any of this mindless drivel. i am the good old-fashioned kind of atheist, the kind who disbelieves in everything. i even disbelieve in my own disbelief. try disbelieving in that! there is one thing that i worship religiously, though, and that is attractive young women my age. they are so great and wonderful, it is impossible to construct a sentence capable of expressing their glory. they are far superior to everything else in this universe. and any so-called “faults” that they seem to have are actually good qualities that are just being looked at incorrectly when labeled as faults. if you are good at telling good qualities from bad ones, then you can tell that all of their qualities are good and none are bad. this is because value judgments are subjective and everyone can make different ones. subgenii think that truth is subjective, and since there is no objective truth, not only is there moral relativism, but there is complete relativism! it is like albert einstein on steroids wearing a dunce cap, sitting in the corner, sucking his thumb! truth and fiction are one and the same because they mirror each other and are inverses, so it is impossible to tell one from the other. according to superstring theory, big and small are one and the same because they mirror each other and are inverses, so it is impossible to tell one from the other. so the universe is either very very big or very very small, according to superstring theory. which one? nobody knows. perhaps the subatomic particles we are made of are actually larger than us, but we are looking at everything backwards when it comes to size, and have “big” confused with “small”. scientists still cannot prove that the universe is big, because a big universe is mathematically equivalent to a small universe that is inside out. so, instead of having a big universe that is expanding, perhaps we inhabit a tiny universe that is getting even smaller. you can’t prove that we do not live in such a universe, can you? so, while strong atheists like me are perfectly capable of proving that a specific god does not exist, if we are given the right definition and properties for that god, we still cannot disprove it if you open it up and allow any god at all to exist, even the minor, unimportant ones from long forgotten polytheistic religions. perhaps one of those gods really does exist, and is watching over all of us, and is really pissed off because everyone has moved on to newer religions and forgotten the ancient religions that actually worships him/her/it. and so that god takes out his/her/its frustration with the fact that nobody on earth believes in him/her/it by making us miserable and making natural disasters happen and manipulating people into becoming enemies and confusing our minds and giving us nasty diseases, and that god is just laughing at us. but that god does not have unlimited powers, since he/she/it is just one of many gods. the others are all ignoring us because there are much more important things going on elsewhere in the universe for them to pay attention to. but for the 1 god that does bother to pay any attention to us, we are just a toy, a plaything, like a video game. only someone stupid enough to believe anything who actually does believe everything would be capable of believing in such a long-forgotten elder god. but i think human language is too limiting and limited to even talk about anything divine. i don’t think a god can exist if it is the sort of god that people can actually speak about in words. only some unnamed force that is so complicated it is beyond human comprehension if we use 100% of our brain could be the real answer... but that would be something for science to study, not religion. but science can never find all the answers, because in reality, the laws that govern this universe are far too complicated for humanity to ever find. yes, when it comes to physics, i am an agnostic, one who boldly claims that nobody can find the answers, ever. even more so when it comes to the laws that govern complex chaotic dynamic self-modifying things in lush heterogenous environments. we can never explain those things, even though we ourselves are prime examples of such chaotic beings. a human being is the very essence of the sacred chao that the discordian religion worships. the funny thing about the laws of chaos is that they change all the time and nobody can keep track of them because whenever you write them down, the piece of paper mysteriously vanishes or something completely different appears on it instead. true reality can never be explained because reality is the opposite of fantasy and we all live in fantasy worlds we create in our own minds. so while atheism is correct, atheism is meaningless and tells us nothing about the world. it simply removes several ridiculous ways for explaining things, but things are still way too complicated to explain, even afterwards. we are only made of matter because we define what we are made of as matter and we define that other stuff that it annihilates with as antimatter, but it could just as easily be the other way around. perhaps all the knowledge humanity has ever discovered is completely stupid and inconsequential to some superior alien race, where a typical baby knows 10 times as much as what our entire civilization knows by its first birthday... if aliens even celebrate birthdays. but who knows? perhaps those aliens in some far off galaxy are so weird, they do not even have birthday parties. if so, i feel sorry for them, despite their advanced ways, because they still do not know the simple joys of a birthday party. i wonder if i am going to have a birthday party. it sure would be nice, since my birthday is coming up, after all. hint, hint, rest of humanity... maybe, act differently than those advanced aliens who do not celebrate birthdays... let us celebrate our primitive ape festivals on our small terrestrial planet... and i still think our earth girls are way better than those space chicks, if the aliens even have 2 genders like we do...

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Numinous Ubiquity!

That article on the "new atheist" interested me. I only skimmed through it though. I plan to go back and take another look.

I'm not sure that one can prove that God exists. It seems to me that the only real way to know God is to experience God! I often wonder how many people do experience God at one or more times during their lifetime. Has anyone ever done such a study? I know that William James wrote a book on religious experience but I read it many, many years ago. If I ever have much time to myself perhaps I will revisit it.

Did you see my comment on the format of your blog "why so much leftist infighting?" that you posted at 4:05 am in the morning?

General Public said...

Yes I saw your comment. Thank you for your comments, emm! I have never had a religious experience, but I did have quite a scary experience once when I thought I was dying and my heart was racing and I was totally convinced that I was about to die and that I had no soul and there was no afterlife and this was going to be the end... and it was just horrible! Luckily it turned out I was not actually dying, but the revelations that came to my mind during that episode that I now recognize as a very severe panic attack are still burned into my psyche. I am still filled with a sense of dread about the coming nonexistence which I am certain will greet me when my mortal life comes to an end. And I still steadfastly oppose mortality, and wish to be immortal and live forever. If only there were a heaven... if only... but that would be perfection and that is unrealistic in this terribly flawed world. I wish it were true... I really do.